Amounts shown in italicized text are for items listed in currency other than U.S. dollars and are approximate conversions to U.S. dollars based upon Bloomberg's conversion rates. I think the ASMs from around that time were pretty good guns. Howell Conversions - GATED 1858 Remington Pietta .45 LC. WebThis conversion cylinder assembly will convert your 1858 Remington ASM, Uberti or Pietta steel or brass .44 cap and ball revolver to fire .22 cartridges. With .40 grains of Black Powder I get about 400 ft-lbs of Energy. A great design of a pistol. See each listing for international shipping options and costs. To add to the confusion Chiappa did purchase the 92 rifle tooling and left over parts from ASM. They supplied American retailers with replica firearms over the 1960s thru 1990s. Dont ever get law and logic mixed up; they have nothing in common. 1860 Henry Manual. So based upon my experience, ASM is a solid hit or a wide miss. Bah! It has never been fired, came in the original box with the original booklet, and is in excellent condition. Also, ASM use forged frames instead of castings on many of their revolvers. ARMI SAN MARCO .45 LC Hartford Model Box Papers Manual Spring, Genuine ASM & CVA - Stop Bolt - For Remington 1858 Revolver - Armi San Marco, Armi San Marco dragoon pistol grips pearl / gold leaf plastic, Armi San Marco Hawkeye/Ridgerunner Reference copy single page 7.5x11Diagram, SAN MARCO - ROAD BIKE - SADDLE - ROLLS - GOLD RAILS, Leave feedback about your eBay search experience - opens in new window or tab. It required something Long and thin, preferably with a hook at its end, to fish the Mashed and Mangled remains of the cap, out of the Innards of the gun, before Battle could once more be joined! thereof. Rolling I have three Sheriffs Models, and consider them SO GOOD, I carry one every day for Self-Defense! Same here, EMF Hartford 45s, circa 95-96. BRASS TRIGGER GUARD / GRIP ASSEMBLY. Two were pretty good while the third and last was not. The used value of an ARMI SAN MARCO pistol has fallen ($12.42) (They are still remarkably cheap in both .25 and 32-20, but good luck if you lose the magazine.) In the beginning, I had a pair of ASM Colt clones. SOLD Yup means I cant sell a converted C&B without using an FFL. The strong Remington frame made it fairly easy to convert the pistol over to metallic cartridge use, as firearms technology rapidly advanced after the Civil War. The 1858 Remington is a single-action, cap-and-ball percussion revolver, usually .44 caliber, although versions were also made in both .31 and .36 calibers. Oil finished walnut stock with 44 BP; 97% blue, good bore, good grips, 7.5'' barrel, Made in Italy. THE BLUING IS NEAR FLAWLESS AS IS THE CASE COLORED FRAME AND HAMMER. I have owned a dozen or more 1860 Army copies. ASM attempted to revive its percussion revolvers with limited success and finally closed its doors several years back. Hot water dissolves the salts in black powder fouling and heats the metal so it dryes fast and prevents flash rust. percussion caps are NOT standard size. He took the gun back. I also had 2 spare cylinders. Finish in very good condition with some scratches and nicks. I would advise ANYONE beginning Black Powder Revolver Shooting, do NOT ever buy the Colt Style Guns, and steer WELL AWAY, from any Cap &Ball Revolver that has a Brass Frame! I also don't hestate to loan it to others. I am no authority, but I believe I know the law on this subject. Im 66 years old and I have been wanting to get a 1858black powder for a while now but because I live in Illinois I cant get no one to order me one . WebThe 1858 Remington New Army is both a beautiful collectors piece and a rugged side arm. He examined the gun and proclaimed it one of the good ones and made me a really good offer that I applied to a like new in box NMV. Theres that great close up of Preachers hands as he swaps cylinders, preparing to deal final justice to Stockburn, the evil marshal whos been terrorizing the small-time miners and the townsfolk with his equally-evil posse of deputies. Armi San Marco took some bad rep. toward the end of the Companys run. Allen then started Western Arms which became Allen Arms, and then to Cimarron. My dad bought one of these (pretty sure its the same thing) with an 8 barrel. I had a pawl spring break on my late 1980's era EMF 1860 (Armi San Marco). I remember that ASM was sold to American Western Arms who only produces cartridge revolvers. .44 Caliber 8in Blued Octagonal Barrel Brass Guard Walnut Grip Steel Frame Top Strap/Post Sights Overall Length: 14.5in Weighs: 2.75 pounds Model: FR18582 WHY CUSTOMERS CHOSE THIS ITEM Specifications Questions & I was told by the Chiappa folks, they changed the Armi Sport name to Chiappa because of this confusion. BRASS RECEIVER AND TRIGGER GUARD / GRIP FRAME ASSEMBLY. When it did fire on time I could hit a coke can at 25 yards most of the time. They make the guns for different companies and the workmanship is terrible. A quick look netted this info from a CAS City post: ASM was one of the first Italian manufacturers back in 1960 along with Uberti. All Armi San Marco black powder cap and ball and cartridge conversion models were discontinued in 2000. Brass (frame) is kinda pretty but Steel much stronger and more durable. Copyright 1995-2023 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. I just purchased an ASM replica of a 1858 Remington 44 and was wondering if anyone had any information about it. Do put grease in each chamber after loading. Very cool stuff. Which further compromised the already doubtfull Accuracy of the Colt Style revolver! Great article and comments, Come visit us at: 1858remington.com Johnnnie Roper,Alias:Gunslinger9378, yup agree totally been doin bp for almost a half century myself n this is an excellent way to clean them your guy needs to foam elsewhere apparently that foam might dribble onto a bun n rust right through it to the table underneath after all foam is water lol. None other than William Buffalo Bill Cody wrote of his old 1858 Remington, It never failed me. If you had a few briefcases full of C-notes sitting around last summer, you could have bid on Buffalo Bills 1858 Remington, along with his hand-written note extolling the virtues of Beals revolver. WebRemington 1858 Armi San Marco 44 Black powder loading and shooting 4,144 views May 17, 2015 37 Dislike Share Save Harri Miettinen 68 subscribers Subscribe Shooting These are considered antiques and not subject to paper work. The owner was very knowledgeable about his business. Very nice article on the 1858 Remington. No. And they still shoot just as straight and true as the originals. He then shoots it. Click on the "Full Description" fore more info. I had a pawl spring break on my late 1980's era EMF 1860 (Armi San Marco). It just looks cooler (IMO) than the navy, walker, or dragoon. Not part of Uberti in any wayexcept by marriage. Most folks shoot them with charges down in the 20-grain range. I had not planned to involve myself in another topic, but there was so much conflicting information about what guns do and do not require involvement of the BATF. Only Fordyce was very real born in Massachusetts and died in Connecticut. Not part of Uberti in any wayexcept by marriage. They supplied American retailers with replica firearms over the 1960s thru 1990s. Bluing on the barrel is in very 36 Caliber; 92% blue, very good bore, very good grips, 7.5'' barrel, Westerner's Arms 1851 Navy 6 shot revolver, .36 caliber black powder. Two Armi San Marco 1858 New Model Percussion Revolvers Auction Date: May 25, 2022. A friend of mine purchased a 1874 Sharps repo made by them a few years. FRONT SIGHT IS MISSING. Walnut stock. I had a pawl spring break on my late 1980's era EMF 1860 (Armi San Marco). even the center fire 45-70 and the 45 colt cowboy rounds are NOT considered a fire arm, due to the FACT that they use slower burning black powder to fire them! I am sure it will do for deer. I had one and stupidly traded it for a nice 1911. You have the names confused. Lock needs attention, hammer won't hold., s/n 346xx. THE BORE IS 45 Caliber; 97% blue, good bore, excellent grips, 10'' barrel, ITALIAN REPRODUCTION OF A "W.MOORE-LONDON" SINGLE SHOT CAP & BALL PISTOL IN VERY GOOD OVERALL CONDITION. For more recent exchange rates, please use the. No, there is little if any chance "any" parts you currently see, other than springs, that would work in an ASM. Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Black Powder replica. Oh MY when I fired the first revlver chamber flash fired the shotgun too, with a full ounce of buckshot. EMF had ASM building them before they switched to Uberti. I called VTI. hello again my good friends , I have a couple sets of BP cap/ball one is a mixed set of open top 1-36 navy and a 44 navy/army and the other is a set of 1858 new army is 44 any how was thinkin of pull-in them out of the safe and maybe doing a tune up ,try to soffen those big springs but don't see any thing on them any more , not a mention , were these "junk " guns .? Exc condition, appears unfired. On the other hand, I also have an ASM 92 clone. The cookie settings on this website are set to 'allow all cookies' to give you the very best experience. Click on the "Full Description" fore more info. To sum up, if you want a gun that you can use for Years, Pass it onto your Son, or maybe even your Grandson, buy a steel framed Remington Style Revolver from Either Pietta, or A.Uberti & Son, and with due care and respect, the gun will last several lifetimes! Most of the pieces are in a ziploc bag saved for what purpose I don't know. The new value of an ARMI SAN MARCO pistol has fallen ($12.95) dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $286.19 . I am very pleased with what i got. Or even from New York? I was watching them in the 80s and was able to watch all of the Clint Eastwoood movies multiple times. It is THE most accurate handgun I've ever fired. 1883 Burgess Manual. Now, if only I could get my wife to come with me and reload.oh well. WebASM Hammer (1858) Check Stock Price US$38.50 Quantity Item 2 Code 111ASM002 Description Asm Hammer (1863 Pocket) Check Stock Price US$24.20 Quantity Item 3 One was an early 50s bolt-action Savage Sporter in .25-20, which would do everything at 125 yards you could reasonably expect from a good .22 at 50. STAINLESS FINISH SHOWS MINISCULE HANDLING WEAR. THERE ARE NO .45 Colt; 98% blue, very good+ bore, near mint grips, 3'' barrel, UBERTI CATTLEMAN REPRODUCTION OF A COLT SHERIFS MODEL IN EXCELLENT USED CONDITION. THE FRAME, HAMMER AND RAM ROD ASSEMBLY RETAIN 97% OF EUROARMS 1858 REMINGTON NEW ARMY - C56032, Westerners Arms Colt Percussion Revolver - C56011, Mendi Single Barrel Percussion Pistol - C55991, Italian Guild Remington Percussion - C55994, A. Uberti & C. Mod.1875 Army It would sure be cool to see a review of the Colt competitors