How do you know that LE has someone they believe is BG? Wheres the rest of it? Actually, Jack, the families do not know at all. Via LE Source A, Mr. X s roommate in 2011-2012 in Delphi told LE that BG was absolutely Mr. X. 10) Regarding crime scene: Red herrings to throw off law enforcement. He could have gone home, but for some reason he stayed with his truck. That is because we got these statements either directly from LE, official case documents, or the same conclusions reached independently by two different sources (for this to be false, both sources would have had to make up the exact same lie), or from direct statements from one of the girls guardians. I dont get that vibe at all with everything I know, but then again I know very little lol. The dolls may have been placed there before the crime. Too many opinions and he cannot control them. Did he sleep? I wont reveal who I am talking about here though it should be obvious. It is an open case so anything else you want to know look and maybe you will find. The scope of this investigation in terms of who the police think did it and how it unfolded has been dramatically narrowed. It is being said that we are claiming all sorts of odd things about this crime, what happened, and the crime scene. Thomas Bruce, a former pastor, was charged with fatally shooting one woman and sexually assaulting two others at aCatholic Supply store in St. Louis, Missouri, in November 2018. For whatever reason, she confuses facts all the time and cant keep her stories straight. The police cant prevent private citizens from searching on their own, and its my understanding that many did. Isnt that logical. I tune in to their broadcasts and most of it is these narcissists collecting narcissistic supply, which is being doled out by their worshipful audience. The case for Mr. X is as solid as ever. Delphi Murders if bodies were staged or posed what does that - reddit Isnt that REALLY FUCKING STUPID? The crime was committed in February 13 or 2/13. Well, the police have told us that they have a main suspect in this case, so at least I am just going to go with the cops on this one. He has not been charged in the Delphi case. Haunting new details in Delphi murders including bullet 'tying Richard Also we dont know what they interrogated Ron about either. Mr. X was employed by Indiana Packers around 2011 or 2012. Mr Kline was charged with 30 felonies in 2020 over the case. Thats because he was competition. The theory is that he was in on these murders for mercenary reasons, such as a malign desire to purchase Ron Logans land. But know, this is deliberate. Why would the police lie about where they found them tho that doesnt make sense. Innocent people are hurt and killed in these cases, but theyre not really high profile and we dont have time to mess with this epidemic. I could be completely off base and change my mind tomorrow. There are neighbors separated by acreage. A sheet with a smiley face on it at the crime scene, possibly hung from a tree. Specific mention is made that the girls were abducted at exactly 2:13 PM. The comments below have not been moderated, By We dont know if or when he worked for them before or after. David shot that down, and he then explained how what he saw differed from these images. On and on. The two dates are perfect reversals of one another. Another user is talking about them also. When we line the two theories against each other, ours wins hands down. The 2017 murder of Abby and Libby became notorious after investigators released chilling footage the girls recorded of a man following and approaching them across the Manon High Bridge. Allen has been booked into jail, but no details of any charges made against him have been shared. That looks suspicious as Hell. Photo Page - Delphi Homicides - Truth Tellers Allen is a married pharmaceutical technician. This seems to be one of the motives for the homicide. Kline is being held in jail after being arrested on separate child porn charges in 2020. Admitting his culpability only after lying to law enforcement, whom he first told that the girl shot herself while cleaning her weapon. You dont have LE sources. I hav followed both cases very closely. You said parent, so that gives me a clue. Im not sure about their clothes, but they definitely crossed that creek all right. Theyre generally unusable. Sometimes there are deliberate injuries to the mouth, including bullet wounds, as a sign that someone "talked.". He was living in the Evansdale area at the time. Im not saying he is or he isnt, but I would hope that every one of his statements has been gone over with a fine-toothed comb, verified, and re-verified for good measure. I saw this being explained in some YT comments to a bunch of brainlets. Which of them is LEs chief suspect? I was never aware that anyone had any good evidence against this harmless-looking fellow. Fact that the FBI was instantly involved would be because they have the expertise to "read" such a crime scene. So the stellar members of LE have RL arrested and sent to jail all the while knowing he couldnt have committed this crime but doing NOTHING to stop the entire community from believing, first, that RL was a main suspect in the case,, and second, believing that he was in jail because he was a suspect! A post from the horrible r/LibbyandAbby slime hole on Reddit. Im not saying anymore in an attempt to protect LEs directive. Hence, formally, everything Leaker said has gone into unconfirmed rumors other than the things we were able to confirm from other probative sources. Theres only one parent. The state has to prove it. On February 13, 2017, Liberty German, age 14, and Abigail Williams, age 13, were hiking on the Delphi Historic Trail near the Monon High Bridge just east of Delphi in Carroll County, Indiana.. It has those wooden, beaded seat covers. I've seen that a few times. Detectives said that after the photo was taken, a man approached the girls and apparently told them to go down the hill.. Isnt that logical. I also thought about whether the finders might have covered a body somewhat, but assume that they would have reported that anyway. The first sections deal with somewhat extraneous material that you may or may not find interesting. We have the basic outlines of the crime sketched, and weve even filled in a lot of the blanks. Hes a straight man with a wife, but maybe hes wimpy like a lot of straight men are. Watch on Oops, we couldn't find that track. He was also scared to join her group because I was in there and he was afraid of me. We dont do that on here and never have. Mr. X is married to BP sister which makes him Libbys uncle not blood relatedheard it somewhere on the Net it would be easy for you RL to check that out . Its buried under settlement and underbrush. Great to see you back on the case! Photo shows man arrested over Delphi murders with police sketch of Several LE officials have said that Abby had a phone, whether with her or not is not known. Also, if I look at a map showing where the girls were dropped off, seems there is a pretty long trail from that spot onto the railroad bridge. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Charles Eldridge was arrested in Union City, Indiana, in 2019, after he arranged to meet somebody he thought was a teenage girl for sex. How do you know that LE has someone they believe is BG? Would you please email me? Maybe. If so, wouldnt the coroner be able to obtain DNA from the fetus? In the first four years, two LE officers only affirmed one rumor each. Forget it. We regard Leaker as credible, but we now demand sources beyond his level to be considered probative. Good advice. Lets call this the intuitive hunch of an MI veteran. Those aspects of the crime are the following: We feel that these facts are validated because in 1-3, they were seen by us in the crime scene photos and also by a female search party member at the scene, in 4, they were seen by two separate female search party members who had never talked to each other, and in 5, it was verified by a conversation with the girls guardian herself backed up by a postmortem photo. Mr. Xs wife, his daughter, and Becky Patty are now putting out a story that Mr. X never lost his keys in the first place. Newly Released Details About The Delphi Murders Show How Police Came To to find the killer or team of killers. Thing is, we cant figure out if it is a crumpled piece of paper, dried leaves, a stuffed toy, or a doll. Lawyered up, not talking. Hello Jacqui. If so, this proves that this crime was planned nearly down to the minute. Daniel Nations, a registered Indiana sex-offender, was arrested in Colorado in September 2017 after threatening hikers with a hatchet. Here's what we've learned and what remains unclear: Abby and Libby, best friends in the eighth grade, were on a hiking trail in rural Delphi when they were killed in February 2017. He parked 1,000 feet away from Rons door, almost a quarter mile away. No, he didnt kill his own granddaughter. Recently, multiple local sources with knowledge have opened up to share that this was a hit ordered by a very powerful businessman who runs a criminal operation that some say is akin to a mafia-style family outfit. Welcome to the site! 242? Clearly very familiar with the area of the crime and perhaps knew it as well as the back of his hand. You said in your blog that Mr. X was friends with Ron Logan. The man has never been identified. Delphi, Indiana from at least 1984-2021. This is why you dont hear LE openly accusing people of committing serious crimes like homicide unless they have enough evidence to take them to trial. Delphi Murders - Bodys Posed - LifeUnited 43 seconds of audio. The documents, filed in 2020 and heavily redacted, do not mention the murders of Libby and Abby and he has not been accused of involvement in their deaths. If they were killed right away, its no problem, but if they were not killed until 12 hours later, its one more thing that makes no sense. This person is externalizing their pain into rage and projecting it outwards at the world. His home was searched and he was arrested shortly after the killings, but he was released and never charged. He concurred that a high error rate is normal early in the investigation and he also said that by 4-5 years later, you may well get a much clearer picture of the crime. Lists a factory as place of residence. No ones been hurt by this case more than Becky Patty. Which begs the question, if Mr. X is BG, how did he come to acquire a pair of Indiana Packers boots, which is what he appears to be wearing during his crime? I doubt if its important. It was also reported that a cyclist was murdered on the same trail around the same time Nations was threatening the hikers. Garrett said he's solved homicide cases that way, because typically a perpetrator buys a gun legally near his or her home, he said. In the case of the search of the Maxwell home, a gun was taken from the home in order to do ballistics tests on it. July 22, 2017 truthtellersweb. All of the speculation about their final moments is unconfirmed. Theres a knife that he used to kill the girls. Theres no evidence that Tony Kline has ever been a suspect or has ever been interviewed by the police. The others are guardians. Its a very rare occurrence, only 1.3% of the victims is left in an unusual, corrected position. DELPHI New chilling details have emerged involving the Delphi deaths investigation. I dont know, FIELDS! The 50-year-old from Delphi was taken into custody on Friday and booked into Carroll County Jail. The gun is a rare collectors item, possibly a .40mm. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Powered By WordPress | Royal News Magazine, Takeoff: Killed| How Did Die| Funeral| Age| Latest Net Worth Update, Billie Eilish: Hallowen Costume| Costume 2022| Jesse Rutherford Costume. Interestingly, I had NO idea who you were (sorry). A user allegedly shared them on a FB group a few days ago. Recently moved to a small city nearby, possibly due to the heat of being a suspect in the crime. Because of the number of people saying this rumor is true, it goes into the likely category. We dont just look at the Delphi case here. My ideas, of course, are just speculative like those put forth by others. Too much points to them to be coincidence. New Delphi suspect sketch released on 4/22/19. Why on Earth would someone stay next to their truck all through one evening and night through the next early AM and morning into the afternoon? However, shouldnt that same exact principle/logic apply to Mr. X? Kegan Kline cannot be involved either. Investigators tracked Logans activities on the day of the murders and determined he was not forthcoming. They are most likely related to one another, but your description of Mr. X confuses the two. Crime scene photos leaked? Thank u. The few times Ive brought him up myself (this is really on Reddit) I have been ripped apart for my apparent stupidity. We also heard it from someone very close to a detective who was working on the case who had confided in them. This Feb. 13, 2017, file photo released by the Indiana State Police shows a man walking along the trail system in Delphi, Ind., authorities say is the suspect in the killings of two teenage girls. I must have the wrong name for your POI? Were you a member of the private group? He posted a photo on Facebook around three weeks to a month after the murders. The warrant indicated that an FBI agent said Logans voice is not inconsistent with that of the person in the video.. Distance of residence from crime scene at the time of the crime: Less than 2 miles to the east along the creek. You think Im stupid? Delphi murders: Crime Scene| Press Conference Update| Bodies Posed Deals with gruesome matters concerning the brutal sex murders of four female minors mostly about two young teenage girls aged 13 and 14 but also a bit about related murders of two little girls aged 8 and 10. The only crime on Mr. Xs record is an expunged conviction for statutory rape from 1984 in Indiana when he 18 and the girl was 14. You will see below where we regard certain things as Proven. Its not free though. Is that also speculation? Authorities have released no connections between Chadwell and the Delphi murders. The bodies had been staged and the killing would likely have caused the killer to get . A mystery man was captured in a grainy video taken on Libby's phone the day of her. Killer? I dont know about you, but when I go to a nearby town, I dont generally take my cellphone and throw it in a bunch of weeds for the five hours that I was gone, coming back to my home hours later to retrieve it from the weeds. You mentioned a pic of CSI workers with a doll a couple of days ago did anything come of this? It's a strange case. Unverified. Im not stupid. I have an official case document here in my hand. Leave this poor man alone, for Gods sake. Something to think about. There are many people who confuse him with PB in comments and videos. 9) He has killed before. Thank you Mr. Lindsay for significant information on this terrible case. One problem was we went down the rabbit hole chasing the wrong guy for a couple of years. I am sure he was asked. Apparently claimed that he saw Mr. X in another town around the time of the murders. But many questions still remain around the murders of Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14. And my ban appeal didnt work either. Professor at a local university, known for the Geocaching Theory. The authorities have been purposeful in not disclosing much information about the Delphi Murders. And I cant wait to see what they get from RL about Mr. X. Better to let your officers go home for a few hours so theyd be ready for work the next morning. This is a rumor that a woman walking her dogs on the bridge at 12:30 PM on the day of the murders, a full hour before BG probably appeared on the trails at 1:30 PM, saw a man who looked like the Young BG sketch. Please do not report this due to it discussing a rumor. Classy. Garrett said he hopes investigators went to all of the local gun stores to see their records of sales of .40-caliber-type weapons. Now he says he never saw BG at all. Horrible. What? Hi folks. I showed a few friends who knew nothing of the case and they didnt see anything either. Marital status: Married, rocky and tumultuous marriage with breakups where they go live on their own and later get back together. Busy location with a diner nearby. I DO think that if there is evidence of staging that insinuates a methodology , therefore suggests it could be a serial killer. Could be to cover their own asses. Kegan Kline, 28, of Peru, Indiana, was named as a possible suspect in the girls' murders. There is no way he would come back later to stage anything because he wouldnt know how safe it was or how many law enforcement would be around. Thank you! A transcript of what they thought was being said was agreed on by this group. Also its very hot here and all I feel like doing is sleeping all the time. In the years before his arrest, Miller had left numerous notes in public places saying the killer of Tinsley would strike again. 7) Hes local. I found who mr. X is. Offers may be subject to change without notice. Of course they would look for that. What do you all think?" We can look into any case we want! Young girls menstrual cycles can be so messed up until possibly a few years later. Delphi Murders: 5 Years Later, Victim's Sister Clinging to Hope That This is getting ridiculous. He doesnt want to get uncovered revealing official case documents to the media. The motive is apparently lust murder motivated by sexual sadism combined with psychopathy, the classic formulation almost all serial killers have. We have your fingerprints on the counter.. They were folded on her chest. It is important to note that the validity of the text messages has not and cannot be corroborated at this time. If its who I think it is, you can tell her I said that. Again, not saying that he did it. But it's just speculation at this point, because nothing has been confirmed. This sub is for discussion of the case that's come to be known as the Delphi Murders. Will be posted by Saturday, March 11th. A log was placed in front of one of the girls, and a doll was placed in front of the other girl. How many journalists do you know who actually went to J-school and have J-degrees? The autopsy of the other would know if she was a virgin and even if the killer violated her with whatever she would have bled a little so that could have been detected also. It turns out that we have acquired a sleuth who is a former detective. Gas station attendant noticed something off with him, but hasnt made the connection! In general, the less said about the other aspects of his life the better, and they have no relationship to this case anyway. The "Nearly Decapitated" rumors : r/DelphiMurders - reddit Robert, I am wondering why no reply to my question? Also, the props were put at the scene later too, perhaps after the girls were killed. And I seriously doubt that any of those POIs have access to all of those sensitive case documents or that any of them have a personality like that. For one, its a gross violation of journalistic ethics, and I was trained to be a journalist I have a BA in Journalism and worked as an editor of a large magazine, among other things. They had both been murdered. Alex Oliveira For Dailymail.Com, $49m to live four blocks from THAT drug market? Anyhow on YT one of the titles says former cheerleader. Not that thats necessarily relevant to the case, just that one of your pics above makes more sense now lol. I am hoping this will possibly fit with somone elses knowledge and it will be helpful. He has long been presumed to be their killer. 17:50 GMT 31 Oct 2022. The main suspect is brazen, openly admits to being a pedophile, goes to the victims graves and leaves flowers, and visits the victims families to offer solace for their losses. See the sort of games these guys play? Theres something different about this casing, it stood out to me. Knives. In the Delphi case, a signature could be very evident if both victims . The problem here is that before 5:30 PM, no one knew the girls were missing other than the families and a few friends. This was just the most underhanded, disgusting display of we need a fall guy, and LE should be ashamed of themselves. Becky Patty: Obviously theyre not accusing her of the homicides! How do you know he had a deer kit and how many knives he had? This girl was refusing to get an abortion that he wanted her to get.